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Ideas for ATP's

Postby Bentinho Massaro » Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:12 pm

If you have any idea's for an ATP, share and discuss them here.

If you do not know what an ATP is, please read here first: http://www.free-awareness.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=415

All ideas are welcome!

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Re: Ideas for ATP's

Postby Bentinho Massaro » Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:05 pm

Hey guys,

I have had some themes popping up every now and then. I have a particularly big one which I only wish to do if I am around most of the time. Because people just may need some quick responses and some guidance along the way. That theme would be: "Free Relationships"

Coming to think of it, Free Desire would have been a better name instead of Free From Desire. Because it wasn't so much about getting rid of desires, not at all in fact. It was about freeing them, or better yet: seeing how they themselves are already free and nothing but empty freedom.

But what do you think about the theme Free Relationships? It will require us to actively engage our relationships to the best of our abilities. Openly facing them regularly. It won't be about forcing anything or crossing lines, rather it will involve us first to get a better understanding about what relationships are and how they are perceived in the light of Free Awareness. Then from that understanding we will be able to take another look at our relationships, or rather just live them as we would naturally with our new found understanding of relationships.

I think it could be a potentially big one for everyone and it could get quite personal as well. Since we all have to deal with all kinds of relationships, ranging from mundane, or even hatred perhaps to loving and intimate.

Another theme I was thinking about would be a sort of an introduction theme in which I really thoroughly explain Free Awareness. In which we start by the very beginning, understanding the basics of it etc. But then again I was thinking, maybe that should become a different category, open for all members and guests alike, not only for the participants. And it might become more of a teaching format that the regular ATP. So maybe I should create a new section for 'teachings' as opposed to calling and treating that theme like an ATP.

I would love all your thoughts on this. Also any ideas of yourself are most welcome and open for discussion.

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Re: Ideas for ATP's

Postby Lightbringer » Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:21 pm

I think the Free Awareness one is a "sooner the better" sort of program to have. A month where people go "Is this it?" and help each other past limiting beliefs about what the experience actually is would be a big stepping stone to constant freedom. Plus once you've felt it, it's sort of addicting since nothing else compares. Addicting is probably not the word but the more one experiences it and knows what it is, the more it motivates you to commit more and more to experiencing it with greater frequency.
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Re: Ideas for ATP's

Postby Bentinho Massaro » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:07 pm

Hey Light,

Thanks for your feedback. In what way do you think this would be best held, I would like to get some other ideas from you all. Should we do that like we did with the ATP in which everybody shares on a regular basis (perhaps not daily because it is not a regular ATP?) and I write some regular articles and answer questions. Articles that cover the basis along with some practical tips and 'practices' which people can apply in these days?

Or should it be held in a chatroom for example?

Any ideas are welcome.

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Re: Ideas for ATP's

Postby Frank Molignano » Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:33 pm

Great ideas guys.

I really like your idea Light. I can count the number of times I've had a full blown experience of awareness, but sometimes find myself getting caught up in, as you say "is this it?" or if what I'm doing is bringing me closer to awareness. That's a great program to clear up any preconcieved ideas of what it is, and can help keep those breakthroughs rolling.

Perhaps have an ATP and have LB's "Is this it?" program running at the same time. Maybe keep "Is this it?" up for a longer period, maybe 2 months, while people become more aware of their relationships or whatever the ATP is for 2 weeks. Then they can have proper guidance in the ATP and also get closer to instinctively experiencing awareness in their own experience in "Is this It?" I think that would boost success of the ATP as well.

If you do decide to create another ATP Free Relationships sounds like a great idea, but may be a bit to soon. Perhaps warm up to it with Free Emotions, or Free Thoughts if you feel it's necessary to become more aware of these before any progress can be made in relationships. Relationships do bring about some wild thoughts, emotions, and feelings.
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Re: Ideas for ATP's

Postby Bentinho Massaro » Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:38 am

Hey jynx, thanks.

Yes Free Relationships is a bit too soon. Before I start such a program I want to have at least a good basic article basis, or teachings that people can read so they really understand free awareness before applying it to something like that.

Ok so the teaching about what is awareness and what is the experience of Free Awareness exactly should be given I agree. But in what form? As a forum topic? As multiple forum topics within a specific section, for example in the Teachings and gatherings forum? Or should we do it in a chat? I somehow like the idea of including a chat as well.

Also people will keep coming gradually to this forum. Now let's say I give these satsangs or however you like to call them over a period of two months. Afterwards new people will come, so it should still be accessible. So either it should be also available in forum format so people can read everything that has been said but still ask their questions there, or this is just something I should continue to do for as long as is suitable. Maybe it would be an idea to have weekly satsangs/meetings for example that just keep on going every week.

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Re: Ideas for ATP's

Postby Alan Kroeger » Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:57 pm

Probably should try out the satsang idea at some convenient internationally compatible time frame. Maybe there we can come up with the next ATP session :)
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Re: Ideas for ATP's

Postby Bentinho Massaro » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:48 pm

Thanks Alan, I think you are right. I will start the weekly satsangs at a convenient time.

Do you know of a good program to all meet each other that has a chatroom in it? So that everybody can question and comment on my writings immediately, so I can respond also immediately to clear things up, possibly :)?

Also, the program should be able to keep logs so we can post every satsang as a forum post each week. So those who were not there can still read it.

Let me know if you know anything.

What does the Swami use for his weekly satsangs? Can people respond there? Can he write anything himself, or is it only meant for video?

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Re: Ideas for ATP's

Postby Bentinho Massaro » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:10 pm

I may have found a very decent free chat-room online website. It is not the chatroom I just recently installed on http://www.free-awareness.com/chat.

The one I am referring to now is called Chatzy and it looks very nice. Also it enables me to make a room and send out emails to those who I wish to join. I believe there is also a link I can send someone so they can join.

I can also save everything that has been said and copy paste it on the forum.

www.chatzy.com

I have already made a room but I still have to figure out exactly how it works. Will do so soon, have to leave now.

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Re: Ideas for ATP's

Postby Alan Kroeger » Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:46 pm

Bentinho Massaro wrote:Thanks Alan, I think you are right. I will start the weekly satsangs at a convenient time.

Do you know of a good program to all meet each other that has a chatroom in it? So that everybody can question and comment on my writings immediately, so I can respond also immediately to clear things up, possibly :)?

Also, the program should be able to keep logs so we can post every satsang as a forum post each week. So those who were not there can still read it.

Let me know if you know anything.

What does the Swami use for his weekly satsangs? Can people respond there? Can he write anything himself, or is it only meant for video?

Love,
B.

Ustream.com is handy for logging session but it is better for one way, lecture, sessions with interactivity via text chat.
There is gotomeeting.com but it is not free but it also allows anyone with a microphone to chat interactively.
Pretty much all can think of at the moment... well perhaps skype?
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